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	<title>Comments on: TIME AND CONTEMPORARY ART: A CONVERSATION WITH RACHEL SUSSMAN</title>
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		<title>By: Dennis O'Leary</title>
		<link>http://fopnews.wordpress.com/2010/12/28/time-and-contemporary-art-a-conversation-with-rachel-sussman/#comment-759</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 00:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have to agree with Jacquelyn.  It is never good practice to use a single name to identify two entirely different things.  The original FOP does have precedence on this point.  I am a geologist and I do know Marith; she is pretty easy-going but a lot of us Quaternary geologists are more contentious.  A point you should consider is that the glacial landscape that interests you was formed during the Wisconsinan glaciation (Pinedale in the western US), which is mostly younger than about 100,000 Ma.  The bulk of the Pleistocene older than Wisconsinan is recorded geologically mainly as buried tills and loess deposits.  How about coming up with a name that emphasizes the Wisconsinan? Why don&#039;t you guys do a project on the channeled scablands?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have to agree with Jacquelyn.  It is never good practice to use a single name to identify two entirely different things.  The original FOP does have precedence on this point.  I am a geologist and I do know Marith; she is pretty easy-going but a lot of us Quaternary geologists are more contentious.  A point you should consider is that the glacial landscape that interests you was formed during the Wisconsinan glaciation (Pinedale in the western US), which is mostly younger than about 100,000 Ma.  The bulk of the Pleistocene older than Wisconsinan is recorded geologically mainly as buried tills and loess deposits.  How about coming up with a name that emphasizes the Wisconsinan? Why don&#8217;t you guys do a project on the channeled scablands?</p>
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		<title>By: FOP</title>
		<link>http://fopnews.wordpress.com/2010/12/28/time-and-contemporary-art-a-conversation-with-rachel-sussman/#comment-378</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 18:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello Jacquelyn,

Thanks for your interest in our work.  The transdisciplinary conversations that are growing around geology+geography+land use+ecology+art/design/media are incredibly exciting.  We&#039;re honored to be a part of them. 

We came up with FOP as a name for our project independently, and before we knew of the geologists&#039; FOP chapters. (Maybe &quot;friends of the Pleistocene&#039; is poised to become a cultural meme?).  After email exchanges with several geologist FOP chapter members, we felt assured that our use of the name wouldn&#039;t be seen as an encroachment.  

We hope any confusion that might result is a productive confusion--creating unexpected encounters across art, geography, ecology, geology.  

Good luck with your work!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Jacquelyn,</p>
<p>Thanks for your interest in our work.  The transdisciplinary conversations that are growing around geology+geography+land use+ecology+art/design/media are incredibly exciting.  We&#8217;re honored to be a part of them. </p>
<p>We came up with FOP as a name for our project independently, and before we knew of the geologists&#8217; FOP chapters. (Maybe &#8220;friends of the Pleistocene&#8217; is poised to become a cultural meme?).  After email exchanges with several geologist FOP chapter members, we felt assured that our use of the name wouldn&#8217;t be seen as an encroachment.  </p>
<p>We hope any confusion that might result is a productive confusion&#8211;creating unexpected encounters across art, geography, ecology, geology.  </p>
<p>Good luck with your work!</p>
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		<title>By: Jacquelyn Gill</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jacquelyn Gill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 17:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I did some cursory searches on your website, and missed the clarification, so I appreciate your response. I do still think that it&#039;s unfortunate that you chose a pre-existing name - it causes confusion, if nothing else (there are also several FOP chapters and no central authority to request permission from, which complicates the issue). 

I would also like to add that I&#039;m not a geologist (nor are many people who research the Pleistocene) - I&#039;m an ecologist and geographer, which I think is a distinction worth making!

Having said that, I would like to stress that I&#039;m very happy to have come across this project, and I look forward to keeping up with your future work and blog posts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did some cursory searches on your website, and missed the clarification, so I appreciate your response. I do still think that it&#8217;s unfortunate that you chose a pre-existing name &#8211; it causes confusion, if nothing else (there are also several FOP chapters and no central authority to request permission from, which complicates the issue). </p>
<p>I would also like to add that I&#8217;m not a geologist (nor are many people who research the Pleistocene) &#8211; I&#8217;m an ecologist and geographer, which I think is a distinction worth making!</p>
<p>Having said that, I would like to stress that I&#8217;m very happy to have come across this project, and I look forward to keeping up with your future work and blog posts.</p>
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		<title>By: FOP</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 17:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello Jacquelyn,

Thank you for your comment.

We are indeed aware of the long standing and well loved Friends of the Pleistocene geology group.  We have been in contact with them since we started our project, and you are invited to read our interview with geologist Marith Reheis, long time participant in the geologist&#039;s group Friends of the Pleistocene (http://fopnews.wordpress.com/2010/03/27/pleistocene-field-trip-conversation-with-geologist-marith-reheis/).  

Our project is focused on the Pleistocene, but unlike geologists, our work is rooted in aesthetic practice (we are artist-educators).  We have recently worked with artists and museum educators who have been pioneering collaborations among artists and scientists (maybe you know about the Nevada Museum of Art&#039;s conferences on &quot;Art + Environment?&quot;).

In the interview with Marith, we discuss our shared interests and the differences as well as the connections between our approaches to the Pleistocene.  And we look forward to going on a field trip with the geologist Friends sometime in the future. 

Finally, on our blog, we link to American Quaternary Association&#039;s Friends of the Pleistocene ... and do not claim to be them.  (http://fopnews.wordpress.com/about/)

Anyone looking for the geologists&#039; Friends of the Pleistocene groups via Google should have no trouble discerning the difference between our project and theirs.  We believe the Pleistocene would welcome (and, in fact, needs) all sorts of friends.  

We hope this addresses your concerns.
Cheers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Jacquelyn,</p>
<p>Thank you for your comment.</p>
<p>We are indeed aware of the long standing and well loved Friends of the Pleistocene geology group.  We have been in contact with them since we started our project, and you are invited to read our interview with geologist Marith Reheis, long time participant in the geologist&#8217;s group Friends of the Pleistocene (<a href="http://fopnews.wordpress.com/2010/03/27/pleistocene-field-trip-conversation-with-geologist-marith-reheis/" rel="nofollow">http://fopnews.wordpress.com/2010/03/27/pleistocene-field-trip-conversation-with-geologist-marith-reheis/</a>).  </p>
<p>Our project is focused on the Pleistocene, but unlike geologists, our work is rooted in aesthetic practice (we are artist-educators).  We have recently worked with artists and museum educators who have been pioneering collaborations among artists and scientists (maybe you know about the Nevada Museum of Art&#8217;s conferences on &#8220;Art + Environment?&#8221;).</p>
<p>In the interview with Marith, we discuss our shared interests and the differences as well as the connections between our approaches to the Pleistocene.  And we look forward to going on a field trip with the geologist Friends sometime in the future. </p>
<p>Finally, on our blog, we link to American Quaternary Association&#8217;s Friends of the Pleistocene &#8230; and do not claim to be them.  (<a href="http://fopnews.wordpress.com/about/" rel="nofollow">http://fopnews.wordpress.com/about/</a>)</p>
<p>Anyone looking for the geologists&#8217; Friends of the Pleistocene groups via Google should have no trouble discerning the difference between our project and theirs.  We believe the Pleistocene would welcome (and, in fact, needs) all sorts of friends.  </p>
<p>We hope this addresses your concerns.<br />
Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacquelyn Gill</title>
		<link>http://fopnews.wordpress.com/2010/12/28/time-and-contemporary-art-a-conversation-with-rachel-sussman/#comment-375</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jacquelyn Gill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 16:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Friends of the Pleistocene&quot; appears to have borrowed its name from a pre-existing group, which has been organizing field trips for over 60 years (and which readily shows up in Google searches). While your project is commendable, I recommend brainstorming names that aren&#039;t already taken and in longstanding use (maybe &quot;Friends of the Quaternary?&quot;).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Friends of the Pleistocene&#8221; appears to have borrowed its name from a pre-existing group, which has been organizing field trips for over 60 years (and which readily shows up in Google searches). While your project is commendable, I recommend brainstorming names that aren&#8217;t already taken and in longstanding use (maybe &#8220;Friends of the Quaternary?&#8221;).</p>
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